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A Mississippi Catholic leader discusses his hopes ahead of the papal conclave’s selection

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Statues representing the Virgin Mary and Jesus Christ stand beside a framed portrait of the late Pope Francis.
A photo of the late Pope Francis hangs in the Sister Thea Bowman Catholic School in west Jackson.
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Sister Thea Bowman Catholic School is part of Christ the King Catholic Church. Both the church and school, which are in west Jackson, are predominantly Black.

Shamira Muhammad

A Mississippi Catholic leader discusses his hopes ahead of the papal conclave’s selection

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Father Joseph Dyer is the sacramental minister at Christ the King, and also teaches religion at the school. 

“Black people are not a monolith,” he said. “We can be quite different, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone in this congregation, or any predominantly black congregation, that would have had problems with Pope Francis.”

According to the Mississippi Catholic newspaper, Dyer was the first Black diocesan priest in Mississippi. 

“I'm hoping that the spirit of the papacy of Francis continues,” he said. “You know, it was so open. Diversity, I guess, has become a bad word, but he wanted to make sure that the doors of the church were open to people, regardless of gender or sexuality, or location. He had a heart for migration, which is a worldwide challenge.”

The 133 cardinals voting in this year’s conclave represent a wider range of the world than in previous councils. Something that Father Dyer believes is represented in his church’s congregation and school.

“There are children in this school who are not only black but are also born of African parents,” he said. “There is one child who was born here but brought back to Africa to be baptized. I guess they don't trust the Jackson Water. Anyhow, so when we talk about diversity, even for a place as small as this, it is for real.”

An elder priest dressed in black religious attire sits at a desk.
Father Joseph Dyer sits at a desk after teaching a religion class at Sister Thea Bowman Catholic School in west Jackson.
(Shamira Muhammad, MPB News)

Yet, Father Dyer says a seemingly diverse papal selection committee does not necessarily mean a more liberal one. 

“One cardinal recently was criticized because he was saying he was hoping that it would not be one of the African cardinals because they were so conservative,” he said. “They are conservative when it comes to sexual ethics, they are conservative when it comes maybe to liturgy, but politically, I'm not sure. I'm really not sure. Just because a person is of color is no guarantee.”

If the conclave were to choose a Pope that interprets Catholic doctrine in a conservative manner, Father Dyer says he thinks some Black Catholics may initially react with alarm. 

“It might cause some demoralization,” he said. “Like, why in the world would the Holy Spirit choose him, but I think they will continue to be faithful and continue to be a part of the congregation and a part of the larger church. Popes may be infallible, but they're not immortal. So we keep on going.”

According to the Pew Research Center, Catholics make up about five percent of Mississippi’s population.